Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

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Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by Robareid » Thu Jun 30, 2016 9:40 pm

Firstly, this is just something I'm doing on my own and not linked with the VoW Match of the Year ballots. As such, this is a 'Project' but not an official VoW project, so if you'd like to move this to a different sub-forum then go ahead.

With that out of the way, time to explain what that actually is. It's fairly well known that I'm very OCD about spreadsheets and the like. As such things like MotY systems fascinate me, and in general I've always thought that the systems we as wrestling fans use generally punish obscurity. While that's not necessarily a bad thing (you don't particularly want a match only one person has seen winning MotY) for a group of fans like us who aren't obscure adverse I've always thought it'd be interesting to see how things shake out in a system that took into account what proportion of the voters had seen each match.

Well, because I'm a massive nerd, I went ahead and made one.

At its core the system works by taking the average star ratings for a list of match from voters. That way if a voter hasn't seen a match it's not affected, as opposed to a traditional ballot where if a voter hasn't seen a match it will suffer as it cannot receive points from that person. However, some people are just in general more generous star raters than others. Therefore, without a level of manipulation, the matches watched by the generous raters benefit and those that they haven't watched suffer. So I've got a system for the manipulation. This bit is a little hard to explain with words, but I compare the average of a person's ratings to the average of the average ratings of the matches they've rated, and then adjust everybody simultaneously by increments until those two values are equal. After all that, in theory all that should be left is the preference of the voter, and not their star generosity/stinginess.

So yeah, I'm going to be running a mid-year MotY thing on these forums under that system. Now I realise not everybody does stars, but unfortunately it's pretty integral to this system. Thankfully there's a bunch of other MotY systems for you that don't use stars, including the VoW official MotY.

The first part of the process is nominations. The criteria is quite simple, it needs to be a match that took place between the beginning of January to the end of June. The match can have happened anywhere for any promotion. The one important qualifier I need to make is the airing rules:

A - If it aired on TV, then it counts from the air date.
B - If it aired anywhere else, it counts from the date it occurred.

How do you nominate? Just list your top matches from the first half of this year. Maximum top 15, but if you're one of us who don't watch as much as the rest of us (or like me you're stupidly far behind on a couple of promotions) maybe limit yourself to ten. They don't need to (and indeed probably shouldn't) be ordered, just list them. Please don't look at what other people have already nominated either, just put forth a list of your favourite matches and don't try to game the system to get more of your matches on there. If you're reading this but aren't a forums person then feel free to email me your nominations on rob 'at' chezreid 'dot' co 'dot' uk (avoiding email trawlbots), or on twitter via DM @TheRDouble

Nominations will close July 10th.

NOTE: If you make any alterations to your nomination lists (e.g. you submit a list then watch something else towards the end of the nomination period from the end of June that you want to add) then please make an extra post in the thread so I notice it.
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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by Robareid » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:03 pm

I'll get the ball rolling with my nominations:

Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Sami Zayn - NXT Takeover: Dallas
Will Ospreay vs. Zack Sabre Jr. - RPW RevPro TV
Cesaro vs. Kevin Owens vs. The Miz vs. Sami Zayn - WWE Extreme Rules
Marty Scurll vs. Will Ospreay - PROGRESS Chapter 25
AJ Styles vs. Roman Reigns - WWE Extreme Rules
Roderick Strong & Jay Lethal vs. Adam Cole & Matt Jackson vs. Tomohiro Ishii & Kazuchika Okada - ROH War of the Worlds
Lashley vs. Drew Galloway - TNA Slammiversary
Will Ospreay vs. Marty Scurll - RPW High Stakes
The Elite vs. KUSHIDA, Matt Sydal & ACH - ROH 14th Anniversary Show
Daisuke Sekimoto vs. Kento Miyahara - AJPW Super Power Series
John Cena vs. AJ Styles - WWE Money in the Bank

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by a7xweeman » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:47 pm

Shane Strickland vs. Will Ospreay - wXw 16 Carat
AJ Styles vs. Roman Reigns - WWE Extreme Rules
Jonathon Gresham vs. David Starr - CZW Best of the Best
Will Ospreay vs. Marty Scurll - RPW High Stakes
Chris Hero vs. Zack Sabre Jr. - WWN Super Show
Will Ospreay vs. Zack Sabre Jr. - EVOLVE 58
Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Roderick Strong - PWG ASW N2
Ricochet/Sydal vs. Young Bucks - PWG ASW N1
Chris Hero vs. Trevor Lee - AAW EPIC
Chris Hero vs. Jeff Cobb - PWG Prince
Chris Hero vs. Mandrews - PROGRESS SSS16 N1
Roderick Strong & Jay Lethal vs. Adam Cole & Matt Jackson vs. Tomohiro Ishii & Kazuchika Okada - ROH War of the Worlds
Will Ospreay vs. Ricochet - NJPW BOSJ
Kyle O'Reilly vs. Kushida - NJPW BOSJ


I feel like I am missing a few but that is a general list.
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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by Robareid » Thu Jun 30, 2016 10:52 pm

I hate to be grumpy (especially as I know how much you watch) but it is maximum of 15 nominations, could you narrow it down a bit. Thanks for taking part though.

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by Frank Olson » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:05 pm

Kyle O’Reilly vs. KUSHIDA (NJPW Best of the Super Juniors 5/21)
Will Ospreay vs. Ricochet (NJPW Best of the Super Juniors 5/27)
Kazuchika Okada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 10 1/4)
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. AJ Styles (NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 10 1/4)
KUSHIDA vs. Will Ospreay (NJPW Invasion Attack 4/10)
Marty Scurll vs. Will Ospreay (RPW High Stakes 1/16)
Fenix vs. Mil Muertes (Lucha Underground 3/16)
Kamaitachi vs. Dragon Lee (NJPW/CMLL Fantastica Mania 1/24)
VerserK vs. Monster Express vs. DIA.Hearts (Dragon Gate Truth Gate 2/4)
Will Ospreay vs. Ryusuke Taguchi (NJPW Best of the Super Juniors 6/7)

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by a7xweeman » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:39 pm

Robareid wrote:I hate to be grumpy (especially as I know how much you watch) but it is maximum of 15 nominations, could you narrow it down a bit. Thanks for taking part though.
My bad haha, fixed!

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by ayaashm » Thu Jun 30, 2016 11:55 pm

Akira Tozawa vs Eita (King of Gate)
Eita vs Jimmy Susumu (King of Gate)
Akira Tozawa vs Jimmy Susumu (King of Gate)
Verserk vs Monster express vs DiaHearts (Truth Gate)
Tanahashi vs Okada (W.K1/4)
Omega x Tanahashi (New Beginning)
Naito x Okada (NJPW Dominion)
Sekimoto x Miyahara (AJPW 4/24)
Kengo Mashimo x Kento Miyahara (AJPW 4/9)
YAMATO x Akira Tozawa (6/12 king of gate)
YAMATO x Big R (6/12 King of Gate )
Shuji Ishikawa x Endo (King of DDT finals)
Kyle O'reilly x Kushida (BoSJ 5/22)
Will Ospreay x Ricochet (BoSJ 5/27)
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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by Robareid » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:19 am

Frank Olson wrote:Kyle O’Reilly vs. KUSHIDA...
Thanks.
ayaashm wrote:Akira Tozawa vs Eita...
Thanks. Remember max 15 though.

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by K. Hare » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:13 am

Hiroshi Tanahashi vs. Kazuchika Okada NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 10 (1/4/16)
AJ Styles vs. Roman Reigns WWE Extreme Rules (5/22/16)
Sami Zayn vs. Shinsuke Nakamura NXT Takeover: Dallas (4/1/16)
AJ Styles vs. Shinsuke Nakamura NJPW Wrestle Kingdom 10 (1/4/16)
Monster Express vs. Dia Hearts vs. Verserk Dragon Gate Truth Gate (2/4/16)
Dragon Lee vs. Kamaitachi NJPW Fantasticamania (1/24/16)
KUSHIDA vs. Will Ospreay NJPW Invasion Attack (4/10/16)
Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Will Ospreay Evolve 58 (4/1/16)
Aja Kong vs. Meiko Satomura Sendai Girls (4/8/16)
Will Ospreay vs. Ryusuke Taguchi NJPW BOSJ Finals (6/7/16)
Marty Scurll vs. Will Ospreay Revolution Pro High Stakes (1/16/16)
Marty Scurll vs. Will Ospreay Progress Chapter 25 (1/24/16)
Daisuke Sekimoto vs. Zeus All Japan Champion's Carnival Final (4/24//16)
Will Ospreay vs. Ricochet NJPW BOSJ N6 (5/28/16)
Marty Scurll vs. Chris Hero Progress Chapter 31:All Hail The New Puritans (6/19/16)

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by wac » Fri Jul 01, 2016 4:49 am

Kazuchika Okada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (NJPW 1/4)
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. AJ Styles (NJPW 1/4)
Katsuyori Shibata vs. Tomohiro Ishii (NJPW 1/4)
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Sami Zayn (NXT 4/1)
Kamaitachi vs. Dragon Lee (CMLL/NJPW 1/24)
Marty Scurll vs. Will Ospreay (PROGRESS 1/24)
VerserK vs. Monster Express vs. Dia.HEARTS (Dragon Gate 2/4)
Matt Sydal & Ricochet vs. Death By Elbow (Chris Hero & JT Dunn) (PWG 3/5)
Fenix vs. Mil Muertes (Lucha Underground 3/16)
Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Will Ospreay (EVOLVE 4/1)
Johnny Gargano & Kota Ibushi & TJ Perkins vs. Marty Scurll & Tommy End & Will Ospreay (WWNLive 4/2)
Kyle O'Reilly vs. KUSHIDA (NJPW 5/21)
Will Ospreay vs. Ricochet (NJPW 5/27)
Drew Gulak vs. Tracy Williams (EVOLVE 5/7)

If the PWG All Star Weekend shows from December that didn't come out until after the new year count then bump Gulak/Williams for Kenny Omega vs. Will Ospreay (PWG 12/12).

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by Quentin Moody » Fri Jul 01, 2016 8:33 am

Trevor Lee vs Andrew Everett: CWF Mid Atlantic (will officially be out next week)
Sami Zayn vs Shinsuke Nakamura: NXT Takeover Dallas
Trevor Lee vs Roy Wilkins: CWF Mid Atlantic 3/9
Monster Express vs Verserk vs Dia.HEARTS: Dragon Gate 2/4
Shinsuke Nakamura vs AJ Styles: Wrestle Kingdom 10
Will Ospreay vs Zack Sabre Jr: EVOLVE 58
Dragon Lee vs Kamaitachi: CMLL 3/4
Chris Hero vs Zack Sabre Jr: EVOLVE 60
Will Ospreay vs Marty Scurll: PROGRESS Chapter 25
Shuji Ishikawa vs Hideyoshi Kamitani: BJW 4/10
AJ Styles vs Roman Reigns: WWE Extreme Rules
Tetsuya Naito vs Tomohiro Ishii: Wrestling Dontaku
Aztec Warfare II : Lucha Underground 3/23
Chris Hero vs Timothy Thatcher: EVOLVE 63
HARASHIMA vs Shigehiro Irie: DDT 2/28

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by Robareid » Fri Jul 01, 2016 9:52 am

Thanks guys:
wac wrote:If the PWG All Star Weekend shows from December that didn't come out until after the new year count then bump Gulak/Williams for Kenny Omega vs. Will Ospreay (PWG 12/12).
They are not.

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by itsberlo » Fri Jul 01, 2016 12:34 pm

Tanahashi vs Okada NJPW WK10 1/4
Nakamura vs Styles NJPW WK10 1/4
Shibata vs Ishii WK10 1/4
Dragon Lee vs Kamatachi Fantasicamania NJPW 1/24
Ospreay vs KUSHIDA NJPW Invasion Attack 4/10
Ospreay vs Scurll Progress Chapter 25 1/24
Ospreay vs Sabre Jr Evolve 58 4/1
Zayn vs Nakamura NXT Takeover: Dallas 4/1
American Alpha vs The Revival NXT Takeover: The End 6/8
Ospreay vs Ricochet NJPW BOSJ 5/27
Naito vs Ishii NJPWW Wrestling Dontaku 5/3
Miz vs Zayn vs Owens vs Cesaro WWE Extreme Rules 5/22
Aj Styles vs Roman Reigns WWE Extreme Rules 5/22
O'Reilly vs KUSHIDA NJPW BOSJ 5/21
Naito vs Okada NJPW Dominion 6/19

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by stienerontheforklift » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:05 pm

Kazuchika Okada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi (NJPW 1/4)
Katsuyori Shibata vs. Tomohiro Ishii (NJPW 1/4)
Shinsuke Nakamura vs. Sami Zayn (NXT 4/1)
Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Will Ospreay (EVOLVE 4/1)
Kyle O'Reilly vs. KUSHIDA (NJPW 5/21)
Johnny Gargano & Kota Ibushi & TJ Perkins vs. Marty Scurll & Tommy End & Will Ospreay (WWNLive 4/2)
Io Shirai vs Mayu Iwatani (STARDOM 5/15)
Marty Scurll vs. Will Ospreay (RPW 1/16)
Zack Sabre Jr vs Will Ospreay (RPW 5/11)
Marty Scurll vs Chris Hero (PROGRESS 6/19)
Will Ospreay vs. Ricochet (NJPW 5/27)
Kamaitachi vs. Dragon Lee (CMLL/NJPW 1/24)
Katsuyori Shibata vs Tomohiro Ishii (NJPW 2/11)
Sami Callihan & Zack Sabre Jr. vs. Heroes. Eventually. Die (EVOLVE 1/23)
Ospreay vs KUSHIDA (NJPW 4/10)

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Re: Match of the Year Mid-Point Project

Post by Robareid » Fri Jul 01, 2016 1:59 pm

A day in and there's already 64 nominated matches from 28 different promotions nominated already across the range of submission methods. Thanks guys.

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