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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by strikamura » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:03 pm

VelkejBracha wrote:Hello board, just joined after stalking for a while. In this post I would love to give thanks for podcasts on VoW and for all posters here. I can't even express my thanks to you.
Why?
Because you all helped me find something so special as that event I just watched.

I started watching wrestling couple of weeks after last year's Royal Rumble. I think it was thanks to Wrestling isn't wrestling by Max Landis I went out of my way to find something to watch on torrents and so on. I was on anti-depression medication so I was just laying around my home, not being able to do anything really. I am from Czechia and when I was growing up we had something called socialism and we were supposed to hate all those imperialistic things from USA. After the Revolution, wrestling never caught on (being fake you know) so I never knew it when I was young. Now, I am pushing my mid thirties and I am squeeky new fan.

By finding podcasts, boards, articles and so on I found so many beautiful things. And having just watched New Beginning in Osaka I would love to thank this site for finding NJPW and subbing to it. I can't imagine better start for the weekend then watching this and just jumping in joy during last three matches (not counting tag match, I went shopping for my lunch, came back and it was still on for some fucking useless reason).

What I just watched is telling me, I have to go to Tokyo next year in January. I want to be there and I want to enjoy it live. It will be my first live wrestling and it will be worth every penny.
This is awesome. Welcome!

Tremendous show today. Was going absolutely nuts during Hiromu/Dragon Lee. One of those "standing up with my hands on my head" type of matches.

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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by Buzz Sawyer » Sat Feb 11, 2017 5:41 pm

VelkejBracha wrote:Hello board, just joined after stalking for a while. In this post I would love to give thanks for podcasts on VoW and for all posters here. I can't even express my thanks to you.
Why?
Because you all helped me find something so special as that event I just watched.

I started watching wrestling couple of weeks after last year's Royal Rumble. I think it was thanks to Wrestling isn't wrestling by Max Landis I went out of my way to find something to watch on torrents and so on. I was on anti-depression medication so I was just laying around my home, not being able to do anything really. I am from Czechia and when I was growing up we had something called socialism and we were supposed to hate all those imperialistic things from USA. After the Revolution, wrestling never caught on (being fake you know) so I never knew it when I was young. Now, I am pushing my mid thirties and I am squeeky new fan.

By finding podcasts, boards, articles and so on I found so many beautiful things. And having just watched New Beginning in Osaka I would love to thank this site for finding NJPW and subbing to it. I can't imagine better start for the weekend then watching this and just jumping in joy during last three matches (not counting tag match, I went shopping for my lunch, came back and it was still on for some fucking useless reason).

What I just watched is telling me, I have to go to Tokyo next year in January. I want to be there and I want to enjoy it live. It will be my first live wrestling and it will be worth every penny.
Glad to see you come and watch what I've enjoyed doing/watching for almost 35 years. A word of advice is to simply enjoy it and not get a jaded and cynical as some around here do. Some take this WAY too seriously and almost think that it's real.
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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by Grammarian » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:07 pm

The final two matches were great. I went (****1/2) for Elgin/Naito and (****1/4) for Hiromu/Dragon Lee. I won't argue with anyone who went higher for those two matches.
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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by Rainmaker_F7 » Sat Feb 11, 2017 6:36 pm

VelkejBracha wrote:Hello board, just joined after stalking for a while. In this post I would love to give thanks for podcasts on VoW and for all posters here. I can't even express my thanks to you.
Why?
Because you all helped me find something so special as that event I just watched.

I started watching wrestling couple of weeks after last year's Royal Rumble. I think it was thanks to Wrestling isn't wrestling by Max Landis I went out of my way to find something to watch on torrents and so on. I was on anti-depression medication so I was just laying around my home, not being able to do anything really. I am from Czechia and when I was growing up we had something called socialism and we were supposed to hate all those imperialistic things from USA. After the Revolution, wrestling never caught on (being fake you know) so I never knew it when I was young. Now, I am pushing my mid thirties and I am squeeky new fan.

By finding podcasts, boards, articles and so on I found so many beautiful things. And having just watched New Beginning in Osaka I would love to thank this site for finding NJPW and subbing to it. I can't imagine better start for the weekend then watching this and just jumping in joy during last three matches (not counting tag match, I went shopping for my lunch, came back and it was still on for some fucking useless reason).

What I just watched is telling me, I have to go to Tokyo next year in January. I want to be there and I want to enjoy it live. It will be my first live wrestling and it will be worth every penny.
Hello! I am from Poland btw, so nice to see someone who lives relatively close here :lol: Heard that wrestling isn't really popular in Czech Republic, in Poland it's actually kinda popular for a country who doesn't have any big star in a major promotion or something, there are a lot of good discussions on polish forums and I was really blown away recently by how many people actually talk about NJPW and other promotions like Dragon Gate or PROGRESS as well. That's really cool actually.

VoW is also the place that got me into NJPW. Heard one podcast in like 2012, read a review or two about a great NJPW show -> decided to watch it, and of course, loved it.

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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by saviorofstrongstyle » Sat Feb 11, 2017 7:40 pm

Rainmaker_F7 wrote:
VelkejBracha wrote:Hello board, just joined after stalking for a while. In this post I would love to give thanks for podcasts on VoW and for all posters here. I can't even express my thanks to you.
Why?
Because you all helped me find something so special as that event I just watched.

I started watching wrestling couple of weeks after last year's Royal Rumble. I think it was thanks to Wrestling isn't wrestling by Max Landis I went out of my way to find something to watch on torrents and so on. I was on anti-depression medication so I was just laying around my home, not being able to do anything really. I am from Czechia and when I was growing up we had something called socialism and we were supposed to hate all those imperialistic things from USA. After the Revolution, wrestling never caught on (being fake you know) so I never knew it when I was young. Now, I am pushing my mid thirties and I am squeeky new fan.

By finding podcasts, boards, articles and so on I found so many beautiful things. And having just watched New Beginning in Osaka I would love to thank this site for finding NJPW and subbing to it. I can't imagine better start for the weekend then watching this and just jumping in joy during last three matches (not counting tag match, I went shopping for my lunch, came back and it was still on for some fucking useless reason).

What I just watched is telling me, I have to go to Tokyo next year in January. I want to be there and I want to enjoy it live. It will be my first live wrestling and it will be worth every penny.
Hello! I am from Poland btw, so nice to see someone who lives relatively close here :lol: Heard that wrestling isn't really popular in Czech Republic, in Poland it's actually kinda popular for a country who doesn't have any big star in a major promotion or something, there are a lot of good discussions on polish forums and I was really blown away recently by how many people actually talk about NJPW and other promotions like Dragon Gate or PROGRESS as well. That's really cool actually.

VoW is also the place that got me into NJPW. Heard one podcast in like 2012, read a review or two about a great NJPW show -> decided to watch it, and of course, loved it.



Hello, I also live in Czech Republic! (although, I am moving in a couple weeks) :lol: Welcome to the forums! :D



On topic, I really loved today's show. Shibata/Ospreay, Hiromu/Dragon Lee, Elgin/Naito all incredible. I was losing my mind at points in all three of those. Ospreay looked incredible and basically beat the crap out of Shibata for what, almost 15 minutes, and made the "dreaded mistake" to do himself in. Love those kinds of finishes to matches, where in one instant it all can change, works really well for shorter matches, and it seemed they had a lot of chemistry. I also like how what has now become sort of the tiresome Shibata no sell German suplex spot was completely redone here with Will flipping out of Shibata's German attempts leading to that awesome leg lock suplex.

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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by mrjoshdude » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:40 pm

You don't really appreciate how deep New Japan's roster is until Kenny and the rest of the Bullet Club miss an entire tour and it affects almost nothing. I think following this show it's not unfair to say Elgin is at that elite level with Naito, Okada, Tanahashi, and Kenny, I legitimately feel like he could win the G1 this year and I know the pop from the crowd would be huge if he did. Then you've got guys like Shibata and SANADA that are ready to be moved into position at any time, guys like Ishii, Suzuki, and Goto who could challenge for the top belt whenever they're needed. And that's not to mention the now crazy deep Junior roster with guys like Hiromu, Dragon Lee, Ricochet, Ospreay, KUSHIDA, and a bunch of solid guys like Rocky and Liger. The only division really suffering right now is the heavyweight tag scene, and that's more a case of Gedo being lazy, the talent is there if he ever decides to give them the spotlight. And none of this even takes into account guys like Jay White, Henare, Komatsu, Tanaka, and Oka who will surely be big deals down the line. It's crazy when you think about it.

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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by Danwaka » Sat Feb 11, 2017 9:55 pm

Yeah. Kind of makes Meltzer's "New Japan is Crockett Promotions" label look like bunk.

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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by EvanDeadlySins » Sat Feb 11, 2017 10:39 pm

This is definitely what Jim Crockett Promotions looked like in its dying years.

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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by van Fair » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:03 pm

VelkejBracha wrote:Hello board, just joined after stalking for a while. In this post I would love to give thanks for podcasts on VoW and for all posters here. I can't even express my thanks to you.
Why?
Because you all helped me find something so special as that event I just watched.

I started watching wrestling couple of weeks after last year's Royal Rumble. I think it was thanks to Wrestling isn't wrestling by Max Landis I went out of my way to find something to watch on torrents and so on. I was on anti-depression medication so I was just laying around my home, not being able to do anything really. I am from Czechia and when I was growing up we had something called socialism and we were supposed to hate all those imperialistic things from USA. After the Revolution, wrestling never caught on (being fake you know) so I never knew it when I was young. Now, I am pushing my mid thirties and I am squeeky new fan.

By finding podcasts, boards, articles and so on I found so many beautiful things. And having just watched New Beginning in Osaka I would love to thank this site for finding NJPW and subbing to it. I can't imagine better start for the weekend then watching this and just jumping in joy during last three matches (not counting tag match, I went shopping for my lunch, came back and it was still on for some fucking useless reason).

What I just watched is telling me, I have to go to Tokyo next year in January. I want to be there and I want to enjoy it live. It will be my first live wrestling and it will be worth every penny.
That is really cool to hear. Always glad to hear someone just finding their way into wrestling and experiencing it to the fullest for the first time. You might also want to try to get into Euro wrestling as there is a lot of cool stuff going down right now. I know that wXw a German promotion ran Prague a couple of times, but I don't know if they have plans to go back there.
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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by Joe Lanza » Sat Feb 11, 2017 11:17 pm

EvanDeadlySins wrote:This is definitely what Jim Crockett Promotions looked like in its dying years.

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The biggest thing dave whiffed on at the time, was his insistence that NJPW wasn't doing enough to build new stars. I disagreed strongly at the time, and pointed out exactly who he was missing on, and many of those guys are headlining today.

Last year the bench was emptied because those names were moved up. The key was replenishing the bench. When I look at Elgin last night, Shibata on the brink, and people like Hiromu (already working high on the card, and as a junior), SANADA & EVIL festering beneath the surface, I feel like they've successfully restocked the pond. The difference this time, is it isn't Tanahashi & Nakamura on top approaching their final days, it's Okada, Omega, Naito who are all in various stages of prime. Age isn't the issue now that it was two years ago. The issue now is WWE poaching.

This is a credit to Gedo, who has now gone through multiple cycles of building stars.

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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by Jacob's Bawks » Sun Feb 12, 2017 3:40 am

VelkejBracha wrote:Hello board, just joined after stalking for a while. In this post I would love to give thanks for podcasts on VoW and for all posters here. I can't even express my thanks to you.
Why?
Because you all helped me find something so special as that event I just watched.

I started watching wrestling couple of weeks after last year's Royal Rumble. I think it was thanks to Wrestling isn't wrestling by Max Landis I went out of my way to find something to watch on torrents and so on. I was on anti-depression medication so I was just laying around my home, not being able to do anything really. I am from Czechia and when I was growing up we had something called socialism and we were supposed to hate all those imperialistic things from USA. After the Revolution, wrestling never caught on (being fake you know) so I never knew it when I was young. Now, I am pushing my mid thirties and I am squeeky new fan.

By finding podcasts, boards, articles and so on I found so many beautiful things. And having just watched New Beginning in Osaka I would love to thank this site for finding NJPW and subbing to it. I can't imagine better start for the weekend then watching this and just jumping in joy during last three matches (not counting tag match, I went shopping for my lunch, came back and it was still on for some fucking useless reason).

What I just watched is telling me, I have to go to Tokyo next year in January. I want to be there and I want to enjoy it live. It will be my first live wrestling and it will be worth every penny.
I've always found wrestling to be the best anti-depressant :lol:

Welcome to the forums! :D
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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by GuestTimekeeper » Sun Feb 12, 2017 4:14 am

Once, just once, I need Elgin to get a win off the deadlift super Falcon Arrow. Maybe during the New Japan Cup.

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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by BoxingRobes » Sun Feb 12, 2017 5:06 am

Better #BigMike match?

#BigMike v. Naito (2/11) OR #Unbreakable Michael Elgin v. Davey Richards @ Showdown in the Sun: Night II?

hmm?

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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by GameFreac » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:40 am

Shibata/Ospreay - **** 1/2
Dragon Lee/Takahashi - **** 1/2
Elgin/Naito - ****

Feel like I was lower than most on the main...maybe I'll watch it again later. Was distracted by shitty internet, getting food, having to leave during the match and rewatching and feel like it dragged a little too long.

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Re: Strong Style Spirit - New Japan catch all thread

Post by suplexberry » Sun Feb 12, 2017 6:43 am

Welcome to the fold, VelkejBracha! I was already into NJPW when coming upon this site but I think listening to the flagship helped me finally ditch this very WWE-centric attitude I used to have towards wrestling. It's cool that this place, among others, discusses all wrestling on an equal platform, even if they aren't the same in prestige, they can be discussed in the same breath in terms of quality, because it's our own tastes that determine quality.

The more I think about it the more excited I am for Taguchi vs Takahashi. Taguchi vs Ospreay from last year was one of the better NJPW matches Will had, worked brilliantly around him trying to overcome Taguchi's brutalizing of his ankle for that ankle lock. I think if Takahashi has that kind of match with him, it'll be a ton of fun and show his range - he doesn't always have to attempt to kill himself to get the crowd going.

There's kind of a four pole spectrum when it comes to Taguchi, where the vertical ends are boring and exciting, and the horizontal ones are serious and funny. He can be funny and devastatingly boring - like the whole Omega feud, much as I don't like to think about it (didn't help that Omega wasn't motivated to do his best work as a junior). He can be serious and exciting (last year's BOSJ), but he can also be funny and exciting (recent performances at smaller shows, come at me), or serious and kind of boring. Right now it's looking like his title contendership is going to be serious and exciting. I like the idea that these veterans can goof around and then turn on a dime and have younger guys tapping out to their finishers.

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