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Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Mon Feb 08, 2016 11:46 pm
by rovert
WWE has a bunch of videos interviewing Wrestlers about Daniel Bryan on their Youtube channel but this is the most important:


Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:10 am
by wac
Yeah there is a 0% chance I'm not shedding at least a few tears tonight.

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:20 am
by wac
What a legend, what a moment. Never gonna forget this.

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:24 am
by rovert

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 6:43 am
by rovert
Until he explicitly states he wrestled his last match I will remain skeptical.




Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:02 am
by zack tunney
Thing i posted elsewhere but thought id share here

Just watched the danielson stuff from mania 30 there's this great moment when they cut to connor the crusher in pure bliss after bryan wins. Such a great moment such a great human being there will never ever ever be a wrestler as special as Bryan Daniel Bryan Danielson. We're lucky to have lived in a time to have watched him especially after we watched our heroes from our childhood heroes (eddie benoit etc) die in tragedies. Danielson is the last wrestler i was truly enamored by. Sure guys and gals like Owens Nak Banks etc are great but ive never loved watching anybody like i loved watching Danielson. He drew everything from me joy hate laughter sadness and most importantly gratefulness. I may check up on wrestling every now and then but it will never feel the same. Wrestlemania 30 is one of my favorite monents in entertainment history and im so glad i lived in a time to get that kind of emotion. After my breakup and my moms passing i wasn't sure i could ever be ok again Bryan Danielson reminded me there can be joy in this unforgiving unrelenting phenomenon we call life. Thank you Mr. Danielson thank you from the bottom of my heart

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 7:45 am
by ceftaxias
He's left a crater in wrestling that I just don't think will ever be filled for me personally. I didn't get into wrestling ever thinking it was real so my peak fandom was as a teen with one foot in the smark door but the other still pretty clueless. My peak fandom was the Danielson RoH title run, to the point where I stopped watching wrestling all together for four years not too long after it ended, as well because of general disinterest in wrestling all around. I came back in June 2010, which not so coincidentally was because Danielson debuted on Raw.

My fandom is so different than it once was, in some ways I like wrestling as much as ever, I love wrestling twitter and sites like this, I love all the great podcasts out there, and I love how everything I want to watch is so easily accessible. But it's not a fandom where I can have that feeling of being truly invested in MY guy, I think I'm too old for that now. Danielson was the last one and now he's gone, and as he goes so does the last remnant of my initial fandom and my most enjoyable times as a wrestling fan.

I would be legitimately happy to see guys like Tozawa, Goto or Naito win the World title for their company, and I get more enjoyment out of NXT than any other promotion, but I really don't think anything will ever be like the miraculous roller coaster ride that was the career of Bryan Danielson. So glad I got to see the majority of it.

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 10:38 am
by ScorpioCorp
Arguably the best wrestler of the Millennial era. From being a cornerstone of the American Indy style to a top babyface in WWE despite him not fitting the WWE 'mold'. Thank you American Dragon, for your contribution to pro wrestling.

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 1:36 pm
by Chismo
I'm not gonna write about Bryan's accomplishments, influence, masterful abilities, etc., you guys got it covered, everybody's talking about that anyway. I wanna mention something else. Me and few other pals of mine were often discussing Bryan's recklessness during the past 18+ months and it was downright shocking to us why would he exchange headbutts with Sheamus and Ziggler few days after coming back from injury. And for what, I mean seriously? I'm mentioning headbutts because they're the most glaring examples, but there's more obviously, and you know it. Here he is, Daniel Bryan - a fresh new household star who owns the crowds and publicity with the "YES!" shit, he's got everyone eating out of the palm of his hand, has the ability to derive so much by doing simplest things ... and yet he feels the need to work the G1 style in throwaway TV matches, fresh off rehabilitation. That's... kind of dumb, and unfortunately it bit him in the ass. It's sad, but all the people who were urging him to ease his style ASAP if he wants to go on - were spot on.

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 2:08 pm
by BackLash
I'm glad that I got to see him wrestle live three times (ROH Steel City Clash 2009, Super Smackdown in 2012 and Christmas Raw right after). I sometimes got aggravated how his push in the company happened (fans hijacking shows until they (or because they didn't) get what they wanted), but be even before that, he was a great World champion, a slimy jerk of a heel, sold a gimmick based on facial hair and yes/no and best of all, he was a great wrestler. Sad to see him end his career before he could have really carved out a legacy as a main eventer, he could have been as big as Bret or HBK.

But on the flip side, he's done things many wrestlers will never get a chance to do. Entering WWE alone was huge, but he made it all the way to WrestleMania XXX's main event. For all that he has a accomplished he will be a WWE Legend, he will be in the WWE Hall of Fame (in part because of all the "Well if Koko B. Ware is in it" arguments) and he will be example of the wrestler that worked his way from the bottom and will now live on in legacy.

Bryan Danielson, thank you.

Now quick WWE hire him as a commissioner for Raw/SD!

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 3:26 pm
by Rich Kraetsch
Playlist by the great Allan Blackstock of available Bryan Danielson matches on YouTube:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=P ... HfHvwIX4s3

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:15 pm
by mlev76
Last night felt like, in a much less tragic way, like losing a loved one after a protracted illness. Despite the sadness, the ending brings closure and allows everyone to move on. I'm sure many will continue to hold out hope/belief that he will wrestle again, but that's not the vibe I got from the speech. Everything I've seen and read from Bryan prior to this makes me think that once he accepted this as reality, the idea of wrestling again went away completely.

I'm not sure what role he would fit best into but recalling the Wrestling Road Diaries, I'm not sure being a trainer would be his calling (though maybe being able to work beside Regal and Brookside would be enticing to him). I would like to see him involved in the business in some way and believe he will be based both on his value on his own and also based on who his family is (or rather will soon be).

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 4:59 pm
by BillThompson
Those reaction vids, man, if ever there were a scathing indictment of how awful WWE overproduces their promos, there you have it. Each and every person, with the possible exception of Charlotte and Ziggler, sound natural and like they are real humans. Just step back WWE, let your talent fucking talk for themselves, the results will be much better, those videos show this to be true.

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:02 pm
by greenmanRD
I pretty much fell out of wrestling for years after some intense following on the Independent scene, but I remember Bryan Danielson getting signed to WWE and was intrigued. I probably wouldn't be watching WWE or wrestling today if it wasn't for Daniel Bryan.

Re: Daniel Bryan/Bryan Danielson Announces Retirement

Posted: Tue Feb 09, 2016 5:08 pm
by Rich Kraetsch
BillThompson wrote:Those reaction vids, man, if ever there were a scathing indictment of how awful WWE overproduces their promos, there you have it. Each and every person, with the possible exception of Charlotte and Ziggler, sound natural and like they are real humans. Just step back WWE, let your talent fucking talk for themselves, the results will be much better, those videos show this to be true.
I beat this drum constantly but the over-produced, over-thought, over-the-top characters are such a passe part of major professional wrestling. With social media finally breaking down the barriers, we know who these people are, what they like, what makes them tick, who they are married to, etc. We know they have lives outside of the "UNIVERSE" yet WWE main roster is still stuck in that world and still wants to tell these types of stories and they just don't resonate with a modern audience whatsoever. If people want superheroes, they'll go watch one of the dozen superhero movies/Netflix Originals or whatever that are available to them at a moment's notice. I honestly believe wrestling fans want real people doing pro wrestling. Of course, you always need to turn the volume a little up, of course you need to play up portions of one's character but it's not that hard.

I think Kevin Owens is a great example of a post-social media heel done perfectly. He's a guy who laid out his family, his life right in front of you, you know his motivation, you know what drives him and that's him. On social media, he's pretty crass but that's fine, he's always rooted in his actual self and he maintains that persona on social media and on TV because, again, it's HIM. Sure, is he more surely on social than he is in real life, of course, but that's the art of it. Those promos, like you said Bill, prove once again how powerful humanizing pro wrestling characters can be. The rise of Daniel Bryan and how people attached to him in such a profound way is another one.