WWE NXT 2016

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by JML » Tue Sep 20, 2016 1:01 am

Reina has ties to CMLL. They barely make tape so I have no clue who would be at that tryout.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by rovert » Wed Sep 21, 2016 11:07 pm

There was very little talk online about NXT TV the last 2-3 weeks will be interesting to see if there's a post-CWC uptick in interest or did the CWC manage to hurt NXT just by comparison for a long time to come.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by wac » Thu Sep 22, 2016 1:03 am

It's kind of amazing that a link to tonight's NXT episode doesn't show up on the network home page. Talking Smack, Legends With JBL, Holy Foley, and the Cruiserweight Classic are all being promoted ahead of NXT.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by Garuda » Thu Sep 22, 2016 3:08 am

Tonight: A fantastic episode of NXT feat. me with some low blood sugar. Let's see what falls out of my keyboard.

Joe Promo

- First we get a "Last Week On NXT" video package. Video packages are the beauty pageant make-up of wrestling, in those cases when beauty pageant make-up isn't already going to the contracted female talent of the 90s. I was down on last week's segment - it was a good idea that deflates farther with each element added to try and goose it.

- This package sold it, and it put the focus on two elements that the segment proper would revolve around: The extent of Nakamura's injuries, and William Regal.

- First off, I'm honestly and truly out of descriptors for these Joe promos, which just get better every week. Following that dolled-up version of last week's angle with this segment has rocket-strapped the angle. I love it, and I love the way that Joe goes from preening about his destruction of Nakamura to being genuinely angry that the champion isn't fit to fight him, as though the two things had no connection.

- Holy shit, they say Nakamura's out for 6-12 weeks? That's either a bold storyline commitment or a set-up for a weak "oh my God he's back" moment two weeks from now. And I have not read the spoilers this taping, so if I'm right it's because it's brutally probable.

- The injury list sells the devastation, but it's so weirdly apparent that they talked to their doctor and said "make up the most brutal sounding beatdown injuries that don't require surgery." But hey, I applaud a commitment to reasonable storyline sense.

- Look, I'll stop myself from pumping that post-R-Evolution "Worst father in the world" Regal promo, but I won't stop pumping William Regal.

- You know what, I'll KEEP that damned phrasing! Even taking away the quality of Regal as a performer, is Regal not the best, most consistent character they've got going in NXT? He's everywhere - they never let you forget that he's always there, and he's always busy at his job. 90% of the time, though, he's there to announce TakeOvers and matches and signings. And that's what his job SHOULD be, but once or twice a year they'll shoot the angle where the well-meaning administrator is set up against a chaotic heel, and it's magic every time.

- Can't beat that Regal brought up how he has no idea what Shinsuke's up to or how he's doing because he's a weirdo.

- Regal's furious, his authority is defied, and he still takes the time to warn Joe that he may have to also figure out out he got ahold of Shinsuke's medical information and punish him for it. Plus, it invites the image of Joe threatening the medical staff. It's just all so good.

- Joe stomps up the ramp threateningly, and Regal just gives this wild man's stare that equal parts shock and defiance. There's no way that Joe wouldn't destroy Regal at his most bureaucratic, but you can see that Regal's plenty ready to take on a losing fight if Joe starts it. Joe's taken his authority, but he's got no chance at Regal's dignity.

- Although many of the elements are tired, the story as it stands is fresh: Joe's going to ruin NXT until Regal gives him what he wants. I can't wait to see how that plays out, although it does beg the "Why not discipline him?" question.

- Lots of impossible WWE teases these days. I may never see Bryan/Miz, but I sure as hell won't ever see Regal/Joe.

Cedric Package

- Is Cedric the first indie guy to have his NXT debut after his RAW debut? I guess there's Cesaro, but it's a little dreamlike. They're pumping him up for actual angles even though he's debuted already. I guess he's getting fed to someone, sometime.

Liv Morgan Backstage Promo

- She really sounded like a baby in this promo. The voice of an infant.

- As last week, it's a great idea for a promo/motivation for the up-and-commer, but I just find Liv super obnoxious. Asuka saves it with a badass statement. Maybe that's the true winning formula for Asuka: Five words, and kicks.

Oney Lorcan vs. Austin Aries

- I thought this was a great match. And what I really liked was how the match was all about putting over styles. They're both beardy white guys, but one's a babyface feral brawler and one's a smooth high-flyin' dick. I don't know if you can say it about the main roster confidently yet, but is a New Era of style. WWE has more interest in seeing different kinds of styles of wrestling clash instead of a bunch of WWE-processed gray patties of wrestling.

- Also, and this is as cold a take as it gets, but it really struck me how slapping is the new chop. And chops still get over, but the shortcut to investing people into a match as brutal is to just start slapping the shit out of each other within the first minute. Hey, I love it, so slap away.

- Both men got over. Austin Aries is on a white hot streak, and Oney Lorcan came out as a legit dude-to-watch. Can't wait to see him finally get some material to chew on.

- Postmatch - Idk man, I just can't get enough of Aries, and I love how slow n' sensual this build has been. Considering it started with a GTS, the Itami/Aries feud has seen both men kicking ass on their own islands. But it boils over here, finally, with a hot promo from Aries and entrance from Itami.

- It's a story of two men who have finally warmed up. Both men are talented, but came into NXT with an uncomfortable stiffness to their presentation. But they're both loosened up into their styles and personality, gotten over the hump, and good GOD do I want to see this match. And what a big grin Itami put on my face when he paced down the ramp pointing and talking trash off-mic the whole way.

- Even having said all that, I'd die if he took the Gedo gimmick of just shouting English obscenities during his matches.

Dan Matha?

- Is this a performance center dude? Woah, I didn't know they still pumped those guys up.

- I do love that there's always a debut tease in the pipe these days. That makes two with this "SANITY" business.

DIY/Revival Segment

- I mean, I'm just loving this show. AND THEN we get some DIY/CWC continuity porn, interrupted by the Revival stumbling across and heckling them.

- That's two great laugh lines in two episodes: Dash Wilder clapping and saying "Good job guys! You did it yourselves!" Followed instantly by a brawl. It all happened so fast as four men walked to their cars. I've GOT to see this f'n TakeOver.

Aaliyah vs. Billie Kay

- I hate to repeat myself, but I have no change in opinion: I'm far from a final decision on Billie Kay, but all I know is that when she's on my screen I just CAN'T pay attention. Kay's just so plain, even with her great entrance gear. If it were culturally acceptable for me to wear feathered opera gloves, I'd be typing in them right now.

- And Aaliyah, again, does the job to a woman I think she outclasses easily. Good work, some legit personality... THAT'S the promising talent. And she'll get her day, but I'm just so not into Morgan and Kay on the top of this young crop.

-Speaking of which, we get a Mandy Rose backstage interview soon thereafter. She's more interesting, too. She's got an amazing look, accentuated by a tasteful boudoir zoom-out when she mentioned her body, and she has charisma to work with. I don't remember blowing the doors off Full Sail with her work in that Young Lion women's tag from a few weeks back, but she did fine. I just don't want to suffer through the Billie Kay and Liv Morgan TakeOver matches, (so thank God we're getting an Asuka match with Liv next week. I expect valiant but totally insufficient offense from Liv against the champ).

Cedric Alexander vs. Andrade "Cien" Almas

- Earlier in the episode they promoted the main event with a vertical split screen of Almas and Cedric shadowboxing in front of the unprepared maintenance sections of Full Sail, and it looked super low-rent for a third or fourth week in a row. Just stop putting your "Superstars" against the cheapest middle school wooden hallway doors when you're shooting them backstage. It makes them look like they're about to wrestle in the cafeteria.

- This was a great match, and boy did Cedric get a great pop for his entrance. They were nuts for the man.

- Almas came out sans suspenders, but looking like a latino Peter Pan. You know, I once got into an argument on the forums with rovert and others about how dumb Oney Lorcan was for a ring name, and I think they were proven right. The name's fine and you get used to it. But I'm experiencing the opposite with Andrade. It seemed fine at first, but it's bothering me more and more every week. "Andrade" is a real name - last name. "Almas" is not a name. And "Cien" is a nickname that no one gave him and he never uses but is stuck permanently in his introduction. There's just some negative charisma to that handle.

- The match itself I think was a good step on the path of Almas building his cred in NXT. And please GOD let that heel tease pay off, because he's starting to find his personality in the NXT environment, and a heel turn soon would time it all perfectly. He hung with Alexander, and he was able to show himself off as an exciting worker in a way that he just couldn't when facing jobbers. He was NEVER a good candidate for squash matches, and I think this match vindicates it.

- A flippy, counter-filled bout featuring two fantastic dive spots. The don't always look like they hurt to me, but both men did portrait-perfect dives that looked absolutely destructive. I'm very curious how this Cedric arc goes, and I'm pleased to see Almas' rehabilitation moving ahead.

This was such a fun show, and it has be absolutely pumped for NXT right now - and what better time for NXT to hit a stride then after the CWC? The Joe-taking-on-Regal angle is fire. The Itami/Aries feud is fire. DIY and the Revival is FIRE. And speaking of fire, Asuka is going to leave a meteorite impact scar in Liv Morgan when they match up next week. I'M FEELING IT.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by supersonic » Thu Sep 22, 2016 4:52 am

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A correction from last week regarding a Takeover show at the Theater in Madison Square Garden. In actuality, it was just the idea of an NXT show at the theater that was being discussed
Ricochet may not be going to WWE as soon as a lot of people expect. Right now he’s looking at staying with New Japan for the foreseeable future. Not sure how Lucha Underground fits in, as if he’s not going to WWE and Lucha Underground making him a good offer, it would make sense to return. The one thing Lucha Underground could always do is bring him back without a mask and as Ricochet, as he’s better without the mask anyway. He actually teased this on Twitter writing, “Think I just got some great news. 2017 may just be my best year to date! Not WWE.” This is in reference to new opportunities in New Japan

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by rovert » Thu Sep 22, 2016 5:55 am

Ricochet isn't a stranger when it comes to the contract leverage game.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by John The Drummer » Thu Sep 22, 2016 7:20 am

Garuda wrote: Liv Morgan Backstage Promo

- She really sounded like a baby in this promo. The voice of an infant.
THANK YOU! I have thought the same thing every time she's given the microphone. I don't know if its her Brooklyn accent or what that doesn't come across as we expect it would, but she definitely has a bit of a baby voice and does not seem very "hard" at all.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by Garuda » Thu Sep 22, 2016 10:21 pm

She's a sassy Brooklyn baby w/ baseball cap.

Honestly it sounds like a saleable doll concept.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by BoxingRobes » Fri Sep 23, 2016 9:59 am

Garuda wrote:She's a sassy Brooklyn baby w/ baseball cap.

Honestly it sounds like a saleable doll concept.
Not sure how it was lost in translation...but she's from Jersey.

I'd cruise the Paramus Park Mall and pick up a Liv Morgan and take her to a movie.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by Joe Lanza » Fri Sep 23, 2016 10:55 am

Exclusive rough cut of the Dan Matha intro package


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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by ODonnell » Fri Sep 23, 2016 1:46 pm

The Dan Matha video package gave me a Chris Masters vibe and it was the first time since the Ascension were in NXT that I saw a talent and didn't think they belonged in NXT.

He looks the type of wrestler that Johnny Ace stashed in a time capsule when he was running talent with a "only use in emergency" type glass in front.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by mlev76 » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:03 pm

BoxingRobes wrote:
Garuda wrote:She's a sassy Brooklyn baby w/ baseball cap.

Honestly it sounds like a saleable doll concept.
Not sure how it was lost in translation...but she's from Jersey.

I'd cruise the Paramus Park Mall and pick up a Liv Morgan and take her to a movie.
Cept no movie theater at PP. Better to take her upstairs to the Food Court and get her some Chick Fil A

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by ODonnell » Fri Sep 23, 2016 4:34 pm

rovert wrote:Ricochet isn't a stranger when it comes to the contract leverage game.
Court Bauer on Bauer and Pollock said the same thing, and said he thinks its just to get a better WWE cotract offer.

Also started talking about the need for NXT to call up Nakamura and Balor to help the main roster, and talked about NXT talents coming in that will bolster the roster (Tommy End and Roddy Strong) and then started talking about people that could come in at the end of the year, and mentioned Bucks and Adam Cole. What struck me was the way he said it matter of factly and almost as if he expects it.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

Post by BoxingRobes » Sat Sep 24, 2016 12:26 am

mlev76 wrote:
BoxingRobes wrote:
Garuda wrote:She's a sassy Brooklyn baby w/ baseball cap.

Honestly it sounds like a saleable doll concept.
Not sure how it was lost in translation...but she's from Jersey.

I'd cruise the Paramus Park Mall and pick up a Liv Morgan and take her to a movie.
Cept no movie theater at PP. Better to take her upstairs to the Food Court and get her some Chick Fil A
Confused it with Palisades...my b, breh...been a minute since I've been back to the motherland.

I'd get her the finest bourbon chicken from the food court. Only the best for bae.

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Re: WWE NXT 2016

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