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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by Danwaka » Tue Mar 28, 2017 7:27 pm

What a terrible trailer. The music choice is just trying so hard to evoke emotion from the viewer.

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by supersonic » Tue Mar 28, 2017 9:06 pm

The site of WWE's Battleground PPV, which will be a SmackDown show, will be the Wells Fargo Center in Philadelphia.

Tickets for Battleground are available right now for a pre-sale using the code "WWEPHILLY."
Current PPV schedule through next year:

WrestleMania 33 - Orlando, FL - April 2, 2017
Payback 2017 (Raw) - San Jose, CA - April 30, 2017
Backlash 2017 (SmackDown) - Chicago, IL - May 21, 2017
Extreme Rules 2017 (Raw) - Baltimore, MD - June 4, 2018
Money in the Bank 2017 (SmackDown) - St, Louis, MO - June 18, 2017
Bad Blood 2017 (Raw) - Hartford, CT - July 9, 2017
Battleground 2017 (SmackDown) - Philadelphia, PA - July 23, 2017
SummerSlam 2017 - Brooklyn, NY - August 20, 2017
Survivor Series 2017 - Houston, TX - November 19, 2017
Royal Rumble 2018 - Philadelphia, PA - January 28, 2018
WrestleMania 34 - New Orleans, LA - April 8, 2018

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Re: Official WWE Thread

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by NutCrack » Sat Apr 01, 2017 2:42 pm

Wasn't the WM8 venue demolished, out of trivia fact?

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by mlev76 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:14 pm

It's pretty interesting that they decided to do the "Superstar Shakeup" (who comes up with these names? Why can't it just be the end of the trading deadline or free agency? Must they avoid all sports related terms?) right after the last two nights of call ups and returns. It feels as if they are leaving everything in a holding pattern pending what happens on Monday.

I thought they did a good job on all the debuts especially Nakamura's. Perfect timing, perfect crowd and came off as something special.

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by syxxpakk » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:26 pm

YES MLEV76.

It so fucking weird, although I get it. I doubt you can trademark "Draft" or "Free Agency Period" whereas you can with "Superstar Shakeup." I imagine that's the logic. It's stupid logic, though.

What's even weirder is we have a Draft, Commissioners, and General Managers just like real sports. "Next Monday we'll be entering the 2017 Free Agency period and RAW and Smackdown will see some major talent shakeups." sounds a lot better than "It's a SUPERSTAR SHAKEUP WWE BUZZWORDS UNIVERSE VINTAGE WE'RE HAVING FUN."
"If I’m Neville or Aries, I definitely give a shit about the take of TJ “Career Trajectory Vanilla Midget” Perkins regarding my burning desire for advancement and steady income." - supersonic

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by TGD287 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:30 pm

Based on the wording of the article, I've read it as just being a series of trades. No random drafts for winning matches, no one entering free agency. Knowing Vince it'll change by Monday, but that's how I'm assuming it'll go.

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by PKThree » Wed Apr 05, 2017 2:41 pm

mlev76 wrote:It's pretty interesting that they decided to do the "Superstar Shakeup" (who comes up with these names? Why can't it just be the end of the trading deadline or free agency? Must they avoid all sports related terms?) right after the last two nights of call ups and returns. It feels as if they are leaving everything in a holding pattern pending what happens on Monday.

I thought they did a good job on all the debuts especially Nakamura's. Perfect timing, perfect crowd and came off as something special.
Most likely it was Vince "Wrestlemania was originally supposed to be named the Colossal Scuffle" McMahon himself that came up with it.

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by Garuda » Wed Apr 05, 2017 6:36 pm

Oh boy. I was excited for the debuts, I forgot that cut season is coming up.

Not that the Vaudevillains are much of a loss. I liked them fine, but I also forgot they were part of the roster. Aiden English as a singles worker... I don't think I see it.

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by BoxingRobes » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:23 pm

I love the new narrative in the WWE...you essentially cut yourself.

Back in the days of the Monday Night Wars...basically keep a guy off TV...that guy would just go home and collect checks. Today they beg to be cut so they can go work Indies.

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by cbacon87 » Wed Apr 05, 2017 7:28 pm

It's entirely possible that it's called Superstar Shakeup partly because they haven't actually finalised how it's going to work so they want it to be super vague.

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by supersonic » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:38 am

Observer:
Rusev is expected back in two to four months.
The reason the original women’s storyline for this year, which was to culminate in Bayley beating Charlotte to win the four-way at Mania and take the title was changed to having Bayley win a TV match earlier was the feeling that they needed more ups and downs in the story to get from January to Mania so did the title change earlier.
The U.K. tapings on 5/6 and 5/7 in Norwich will be for a one-hour weekly show on the WWE Network. There had been talks of putting it on broadcast television, which would be far more beneficial as far as exposure and building up touring of the brand, but evidently no deal was put together.
Jeff Hardy is allowed to travel and wrestle in the U.K. He hadn’t been allowed in the country since his drug possession and conspiracy to traffic in drugs convictions in a plea bargain in a 2009 arrest that came to a conclusion in October 2011. Hardy had not been allowed to travel to the U.K. until October 2016, five years, due to the conviction and the time expired as long as there were no further legal issues.
Regarding the “Superstar shake-up,” when we first heard about it, the talk was that the key moves would be Roman Reigns to Smackdown and A.J. Styles to Raw. This was months ago. This past week we were told that Reigns isn’t going anywhere and the key moves were said to be Styles to Raw and The New Day to Smackdown. The latter makes sense since the tag team division in Smackdown has been weak from day one. However, with Cena leaving for a while, moving Styles also, which is taking the two most over guys on that side off the table, makes no sense. Smackdown gave you the impression that Styles will be moving over. He wasn’t booked for any program going forward and settled his issue with Shane McMahon. But that would mean one major Raw star would have to be moved over, although with Nakamura, they did get the biggest call-up. Based on the booking at Mania and on TV, I could easily see Charlotte and Bliss being flip-flopped. There are a ton of other possibilities but the key is Smackdown needs help in the tag division and Raw has several teams that could help.
Lesnar is not booked on Payback. Lesnar’s first major title defense is with Strowman, but it’s not locked in whether it will be on the 6/4 Extreme Rules show in Baltimore or the 7/9 Bad Blood show in Hartford, but it’s a prelude to whatever is scheduled for SummerSlam. What makes that interesting is that if Reigns vs. Strowman with no title at stake headlines Payback, that Strowman pretty much has to go over while still protecting Reigns as the top guy for next year’s WrestleMania.
The reality is that WrestleMania really does at some point, probably soon, need to become a two-day affair. If you look two or three years down the line, the company will have far more talent than it does now. There are choices, marathon shows that get mixed reviews and cause casual fans to tap out so you only serve the hardcore audience, or rush matches, which get the talent and hardcore fans mad or you cut down on the number of matches and bench talented performers or just do larger Battle Royals which marginalized more of the talent and make them come across as not special. Let’s face it, the Smackdown tag champs and top challengers were the perfect example of guys whose star power took a hit by being nobodies in a Battle Royal. And there are more guys of that level on the way to the main roster by 2020.

Or you can do two three-and-a-half hour shows on successive days. The audience is there that would pack stadiums two straight nights. You’d probably have to cut the individual ticket prices down, but the combined ticket prices of the two nights can be higher than the current single night price. Granted that means the Hall of Fame or NXT has to run on Thursday, but it also brings fans in one day earlier so it becomes more valuable to the local market as far tourism dollars and the overall event itself.

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by BoxingRobes » Thu Apr 06, 2017 10:53 pm

cbacon87 wrote:It's entirely possible that it's called Superstar Shakeup partly because they haven't actually finalised how it's going to work so they want it to be super vague.
It is 100% a Vince cocktail napkin special. They have no idea wtf they are doing yet...you are correct. Vince might have something finite by Monday afternoon. Preliminary idea by Sunday before dinner.

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Re: Official WWE Thread

Post by Padje » Fri Apr 07, 2017 8:21 am

Calling it a superstar shake-up leaves a door open for The Draft to happen in a few months time. They only seem to want to move a few key people anyway.

(I also believe they don't know what they're doing)

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