Rumored WrestleMania card, New Beginning & Lions Gate, Intergender Wrestling & more!

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Re: Rumored WrestleMania card, New Beginning & Lions Gate, Intergender Wrestling & more!

Post by Bix » Mon Feb 08, 2016 12:29 am

Lots of good points made here.

The frustrating part is that the pro-intergender crowd doesn't understand "this is for dudes who want to beat up women for anger and/or sexual fetish reasons" thing is NOT conjecture. Besides John Thorne (I think it was him?) talking about intergender matches getting an oddly large proportion of their YouTube traffic from Middle Eastern countries without porn, there's the fact that until recently, most intergender stuff WAS produced for the fetish audience, on custom videos or otherwise. Hell, remember when Lacey Von Erich did that video that was literally a point of video video of a guy beating her up in a ring?

I don't have an issue with student shows running intergender matches when they don't have an even number of/the proper matchups for women, or something like the Relevos AAA matchs (for reasons that should be self-evident). Just about everyone else is doing it because it means more creepy dudes will buy shows when they wouldn't otherwise or is deeply deluded about how this stuff is viewed like the Lucha Underground brass is.

In other words: Being anti-intergender IS, arguably, the nuanced feminist point of view.

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Re: Rumored WrestleMania card, New Beginning & Lions Gate, Intergender Wrestling & more!

Post by Rich Kraetsch » Mon Feb 08, 2016 5:08 pm

Throne and Drew of Beyond Wrestling have made comments regarding that in the past.

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Re: Rumored WrestleMania card, New Beginning & Lions Gate, Intergender Wrestling & more!

Post by Bix » Mon Feb 08, 2016 6:13 pm

Rich Kraetsch wrote:Throne and Drew of Beyond Wrestling have made comments regarding that in the past.
The YouTube views by country thing?


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Re: Rumored WrestleMania card, New Beginning & Lions Gate, Intergender Wrestling & more!

Post by cherrylimeaid » Thu Feb 11, 2016 1:57 am

IG in my opinion has been driven home, so I won't touch on that.

As for New Japan and Kushida. First let me say that I'm not on the Kushida bandwagon. But I hope I can be. It seems like a fun place to be but I have not seen a "star" in his matches. Now Kamiatchi THERE is a star. Add that to Meltzer commenting that Dragon Lee and Kamitiatchi (I know I murder the spelling) could be a feud like Dynamite Kid and Tiger Mask got me thinking. Now I don't dislike Kushida. I don't see him a star focal point though. The main argument is for him to be a Jushin Thunder Liger. The Japanese focal point of the company. With this I think we can toss the foreigners out of the conversation with this as just new fresh shiny new toys. I know I was one of the last people to begrudginingly admit that Cena was a deserving face of the company. IMO he had a whole lot less going for him than Mr. Kushida here. But you know win after win after win and a somewhat even feud with Orton and a few injuries so he had to pay attention to what he was really doing in the ring and he could not be denied as a star, even by me. Now you have the great new foreign toys for Kushida to play with. I'm not going to be complaining if he beat Will, Sydal, Dorada, Bushi, etc.... In an ideal world it is HIM and Kamitatchi that have the Tiger Mask vs Dyamite feud. And even the last remnants of people who aren't behind Kushida will have to respect his legacy.

Of course just give Kamitatchi all the gold for all of eternity and I'd be happy too.

And what's probably going to happen is that title will just remain an after thought.

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