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VOW Flagship: Okada vs. Tanahashi, Greatest Royal Rumble, Backlash & more!

Post by Rich Kraetsch » Thu May 03, 2018 3:47 pm

On this week's loaded episode of the Voices of Wrestling flagship podcast Joe and Rich preview NJPW's Wrestling Dontaku featuring Kazuchika Okada vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi, review NJPW's Wrestling Hi No Kuni, discuss the early ticket sales for NJPW's venture to the Cow Palace and much more about the world of New Japan.

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Post by rollup » Thu May 03, 2018 6:30 pm

really enjoyed the Hideki Suzuki rant , i never understood his appeal despite a section of wrestling twitter loving him.

He never really puts anyone over and constantly makes people look like geeks, even champions. If he is that great, why doesn't other companies regularly book him like for example Daisuke Sekimoto , Okabayashi or Ishikawa ?

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Post by armsofsleep » Thu May 03, 2018 7:02 pm

rollup wrote:really enjoyed the Hideki Suzuki rant , i never understood his appeal despite a section of wrestling twitter loving him.

He never really puts anyone over and constantly makes people look like geeks, even champions. If he is that great, why doesn't other companies regularly book him like for example Daisuke Sekimoto , Okabayashi or Ishikawa ?
I'm not saying he's the best wrestler on Earth or anything, but his high points are higher than any other ace in Japan. Better than Okada, Takeshita, Miyahara, anyone. He coasts from time to time, his style isn't for everyone, but when he's clicking on all cylinders, he's a best in the world level guy.


Also I have to say, when hearing Joe say "Tanahashi knows he doesn't have many big matches left in him. He's not going to be in a big slot and have a slow, nothing match" my brain just instantly flashed back to him pulling a Lesnar and sleepwalking through a match with a young gun uhhhhh four months ago in the biggest NJPW show of the year.

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Post by Bloodbuzz Bunk » Thu May 03, 2018 8:03 pm

I guess I’m the lone guy who loves the Naito v Suzuki match. Crowd was relatively hot throughout the match but they definitely weren’t ready for the finish after one destino. I enjoyed Naito dicking around doing his thing with Suzuki until Suzuki caught him and started ripping up that leg. I really think the context of Naito tapping to Zach and being in a funk since losing to Okada is being to easily dismissed because for Naito to finally find that fire and fighting spirit to rev up and desperately slap the shit out of Suzuki for his life really makes the match come together for me.

This match does highlight that in some of these NJPW main events the beginning and middle of a match are often disconnected to the finish which sometimes renders them useless and puts way to much emphasis on having an ultra hot finish exchange. Naito v Suzuki( despite a couple sloppy botches) is not as bad as it’s getting made out to be. It’s definitely not worse than that ZSJ v Tanahashi IC title match or the Suzuki v Elgin Never title main events from Destruction last year.

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Post by Leo C » Thu May 03, 2018 9:34 pm

Well, as far as the math that guy did: if they sold around 4000 tickets and most of them are the expensive ones, assuming an average ticket price of 100 dollars, they've already made US$400000. I wouldn't be shocked if they have already made half a million on this.

I think Akebono's in the hospital, so they were obviously forced to get sumo guy instead.


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Post by Danwaka » Fri May 04, 2018 11:27 am

Leo C wrote:Well, as far as the math that guy did: if they sold around 4000 tickets and most of them are the expensive ones, assuming an average ticket price of 100 dollars, they've already made US$400000. I wouldn't be shocked if they have already made half a million on this.

I think Akebono's in the hospital, so they were obviously forced to get sumo guy instead.
Dude was in a coma for at least half a year, lost tons of weight. Not a realistic get. Should have gone with Shogun Okamoto.

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Post by FilipPejic » Fri May 04, 2018 3:09 pm

Is the rule of the cage match that both feet have to hit the floor cause Brock’s feet both hit the flooor before romans one of romans foot was on the apron and didn’t touch the floor
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Post by BoxingRobes » Sat May 05, 2018 11:48 pm

Lanza...you know I love me some no effort weekly studio show wrestling.

MLW is right up my alley.

First two episodes in the can for me, and I am enjoying it. Its nothing special at all, but, its a really easy 60m. A few matches with solid enough work, promos, pre-tape packages, pseudo Heyman specials that are extended angles.

Going to be in my rotation going forward. And I couldn't agree more...as a wrestling fan...its wrestling...I don't need to be told everything every week like its my first time...I'll catch up and be up to speed fast enough.

MVP is the line drag on things...but such is life.

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Post by Lawsoncomedy » Sun May 06, 2018 6:47 pm

Comparing these Reigns/Lesnar finisher spamfests to any Okada or Omega main event is nonsensical. The closest thing you could maybe compare is the V-trigger usage to the Superman punch usage, but even then, no. Omega always varies up his V-triggers and Reigns keeps doing the same Superman punch. NJPW protects their finishes way more than WWE does. I don't know who could even make that comparison while paying attention to both products.

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Post by Joe Lanza » Sun May 06, 2018 7:18 pm

BoxingRobes wrote:Lanza...you know I love me some no effort weekly studio show wrestling.

MLW is right up my alley.

First two episodes in the can for me, and I am enjoying it. Its nothing special at all, but, its a really easy 60m. A few matches with solid enough work, promos, pre-tape packages, pseudo Heyman specials that are extended angles.

Going to be in my rotation going forward. And I couldn't agree more...as a wrestling fan...its wrestling...I don't need to be told everything every week like its my first time...I'll catch up and be up to speed fast enough.

MVP is the line drag on things...but such is life.
Wrong thread dope.

But yeah, agree with most of this. Gonna bury MVP hard on Monday's TV review show.

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